What was it like to attend Natcona and based on abundance

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Last week, two conferences attracted all Washington policies, although your excitement really depended on where you fell on the political spectrum. On the right, in the DC Center – Natzon, gathering of trump cards and allies who call for persecution and developers and expulsion “insufficient American”. On the left, in the Salamander Hotel on the waterfront: abundant conferences, whose boring optimistic advocates predict American techno-utopia, which could be understood if governments just stopped stopping so much damn.

Most journalists and attendees and participants went to one or the other – my report from Natzon is here, where I discovered Briving Maga Butrerian Jihad vs. Big Tech – But there were several who were Masochistically enough to try to attend both. And one of the such was Gabi del Valle, a politics journalist and fiery, who managed to catch the last day of Natcona before it was to the abundance for a special project. (Gabi is on the absence of books, but, as he put it, came to DC “for love for the game.”)

At her first day in the city, as we filled our phones in some hotel lobbies, Gabi floated theory: Although abundance and Natcon were completely ideologically opposed to each other, the conferences asked the conferences exactly the same thing. “If it’s abundance, like, we have all those people and we have to deliver them,” she suggested “Natcon is like, we have these many resources and they are just for Americans – so who is Americans?”

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“Natcon: All vibrations, no politics. Extensive: All politics, no vibrations.”

I know about very few people who went to Natcon and abundance except Gabia, but when we were compensated, she brought a fellow phrenic: Jerusalem Demsas, former Atlantic A writer who recently launched Argument Based on the base. Demsas delivered what Gabi called the funniest cracks of the week. “She called on Natcona ‘conference for scarce,” Gabi said. “It was really funny. And I think it’s kind of right.”

Tina: What the hell is abundance?

Gabi: From my understanding, it is an abundance that we need more than anything and that we can have more than anything, and that the thing that keeps us from having more than anything, in fact, in fact, a decree.

The abundance came out of Iimbi stuff. They want more housing. It’s a big part of it. And the part of what becomes on the road multiple casing is a local Nimbi feeling, where people don’t want things to build in their neighborhoods. But Iimbi argument is that local regulations become in the way more housing. Are really in primary orders. I didn’t look at it deeply. I just know that there is a kind of request around the stairs, for example, which prevents more housing from build up.

So in the book of Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, they talk about this mystical future where you have delivered the drug via Drone.

Wait, wait, the star medicine?

Yes. It’s just a thing they hid, but they’re like, It could be the future, star medicine. And you’re not rich. You are just a regular person who has been delivered to you by the Star of Medications delivered over the drone.

The liberal argument for abundance is that we have developed the entire regulatory regulatory in response to a complete, unobstructed capitalism that led to a lot of degradation of environmental and pollution and work abuse and mud, blah, blah, blah. But such a kind of capitalism was disturbing progress at the time. The regulatory mode has appeared to make people do more healthier and safer and better and better. But now that Regulation is Mode disturbing progress and prevents people from people to be healthier and safer and better. This is my disturbed understanding that is abundance. At least a liberal argument for abundance.

But the conference was a very theory of horseshoes. Co-sponsored it to central groups and groups that are not in the city center – further to the right, but they do not like, Away right.

Yes, Natzon was definitely Away right. But it was funny that you were an anti-regulatory abundance, because Natcon Natcon called for minor regulations, but only in some spheres and in other spheres, it was like, No, we lock AI and technical development and immigration with extreme prejudices.

It is so interesting that it seems to be a talignation on both sides. Currently, Natcon trade is anti-free, pro-tariff, production in technology. And then this coalition seems to bring together a lot of internal disagreements, because all coalitions work, how much we should limit, and how much regulation should we do. I talked to people there, who were, Yes i am a socialist. And then there were people from the American Innovation Foundation (Central Tank right). I would say much more long time, I would say, but Natzon. But demonic demographic demographically were quite for the regulatory state, and now they say they didn’t. So, it is not as a result or rebrand for right-wing groups involved in an abundance, but it is somehow for liberal groups.

I would also say that not everyone is in abundance of PRO-AI. Well, Pro-AI is perhaps a reductive way of looking at it. But in one of the panels, someone spoke about how even technological people are interested in bringing someone friction into their lives, because without friction, they crossed. So that was not, All technology is good, we need Agi now. There were people who think that, but then there were also people who don’t.

So, there was more acceptance of the possibilities of AI, could make their life good, not bringing Satan.

Yes. No one in the room in the room was talking about Satan, because what was worth.

One more thing: The way they discussed immigration was really interesting. The only Immigration Council was especially on highly qualified immigration. They did not talk about asylum or refugees or anything similar.

So, increasing the number of H-1B visas?

Even increased number of H-1B visas, but actually reforms the H-1B system. One of the panels suggested to break free H-1B lottery and replace it with another system. Part of the reason why people do not like it is because there is some fraud and abuse that continues. So, reducing how to expand highly skilled immigration, and at the same time you get rid of the problems in our current professional immigration system.

So my understanding of your theory is that Natzon and abundance are basically two sides of the same discussion of America’s future through technology?

The future of America in general, including technology. I didn’t go to CEO Natcon, but my understanding believed that number one, America was full. The number two, American is ours, this is our country, this belongs to our country. And how to ensure that the pool is resources or whatever we distribute, like, Americans. But Speaks Missouri Sen. Eric Schmitt It was so “our ancestors came to the border usNot for everyone else. “

He literally said they fought with “Indian war bands”.

So, I think Natcon was about defining who was part of America, and then how to protect Americans against all these threats and threats to abortion, threats to immigration.

And then abundance, that wasn’t it. I would say that it is very ideologically diverse various by nature published by a bunch of different groups across the political spectrum. But it didn’t define who was American in terms of who lives here here. It was like, We have all those people here. What should we do to ensure that these people have enough everything? Gov. Spencer Cox talked about how to build more housing in Juta. There were panels on “abundance in the family”, which was, like, How to create a policy or create a culture in which people can have more children if they want?

Some of the panels and some of the conversations were very much, This will be a winning strategy for the Democrats. But not everyone there Democrats. It was mostly any people who were concerned about living. They are concerned about the cost of living, and abundance is what will deliver what people want on those fronts. It was not an explicit Antif trump – although some of her was somehow leaning conservative.

The way I would also describe the abundance is: Very storm, things oriented on politics trying to understand how to sell the public. Someone described it as “delivering utopianism through white works”.

I have very strong Argument / Rant about that mentalityWhat is, I think the Democratic Party relied on that too long and could never really be a message actually his idea of ​​the public. What I think we’ve arrived here because they ended too explained: If you just explain to people what we do and explain the other side, people will completely fall in line with us and continue to follow us.

It was from that present, but then they were also aware that this happened. And so were like, How do we communicate to people? How do we deliver something and then we are like: “We did it?” The most emphattery way to write tags, if I had to give it, it was: Natcon is all vibrations, no politics. There is an abundance of all politics, without vibrations.

It is not for a lack of attempts on each side to have a combination of politics and vibration. On both sides of abundance, generous, there is commitment to the yard. Cynical, I think the liberal page thinks about how to get Obama / Biden / Trump voters: Is it more centrical or even more centrist? But there is an abundance of true return to civil civity.

Natcon doesn’t do that shit. Are absolutely not interested.

And now, the recess time.